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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70774</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile the Japanese are working on Woman 2.0 -- literally woman-as-object:

&lt;object width=&quot;425&quot; height=&quot;349&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/brD5D0ytD04&amp;rel=0&amp;border=1&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;hl=en&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowFullScreen&quot; value=&quot;true&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/brD5D0ytD04&amp;rel=0&amp;border=1&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;hl=en&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;true&quot; width=&quot;425&quot; height=&quot;349&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;

(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/16/hrp4c-fashion-model.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Via BB&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile the Japanese are working on Woman 2.0 &#8212; literally woman-as-object:</p>
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<p>(<a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/16/hrp4c-fashion-model.html" rel="nofollow">Via BB</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70768</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the voyeurism of reading her account that&#039;s neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the voyeurism of reading her account that&#8217;s neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70762</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the watchee is aware of the watching of the watcher, it increases the power dynamic. What&#039;s not to like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the watchee is aware of the watching of the watcher, it increases the power dynamic. What&#8217;s not to like?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working &lt;a href=&quot;http://uncommoncuriosity.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-like-to-watch.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this bit of surprisingly safe-for-work erotica&lt;/a&gt; into a story:

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When I stand by the window, I don’t stand to the side. I stand in the middle and smile at them when they notice me. You see, I like to watch them being watched.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Reading a report about a watcher who likes the watched to watch back: Surveillance pornography!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working <a href="http://uncommoncuriosity.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-like-to-watch.html" rel="nofollow">this bit of surprisingly safe-for-work erotica</a> into a story:</p>
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When I stand by the window, I don’t stand to the side. I stand in the middle and smile at them when they notice me. You see, I like to watch them being watched.
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<p>Reading a report about a watcher who likes the watched to watch back: Surveillance pornography!</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70760</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;Even &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/history/faculty/TROYWEB/Courseweb/JimmyCarterThePlayboyInterview.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jimmy Carter lusted in his heart&lt;/A&gt;, so what hope is there for any of us?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Isn&#039;t every mental/psychological event simultaneously a biological/physiological/physical event?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And on a thematically-related note, are &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/03/13/compliments_or_harassment/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nonsexual compliments to women (in addition to men) by two men that are strangers to them&lt;/A&gt; necessarily sexual harassment or just likely sexual harassment?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even <a HREF="http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/history/faculty/TROYWEB/Courseweb/JimmyCarterThePlayboyInterview.htm" rel="nofollow">Jimmy Carter lusted in his heart</a>, so what hope is there for any of us?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t every mental/psychological event simultaneously a biological/physiological/physical event?</p>
<p>And on a thematically-related note, are <a HREF="http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/03/13/compliments_or_harassment/index.html" rel="nofollow">nonsexual compliments to women (in addition to men) by two men that are strangers to them</a> necessarily sexual harassment or just likely sexual harassment?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70759</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, right, I should bust out my Dan Savage quotes...

&quot;There&#039;s nothing wrong with objectification as long as we&#039;re objectifying everybody.&quot;

Actually, that&#039;s a neat question: Is that statement true? It is pointedly &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; true in a literal reading of Christian morality (Mark 5:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PVE.HTM#-2X9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;27-29&lt;/a&gt;):

&lt;blockquote&gt;
You have heard that it was said, &#039;You shall not commit adultery.&#039;
But I say to you, everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t like the second verse: Thoughtcrime is morally reprehensible. And look at the punishment!

Still: If all the men were blind, then objectification of women wouldn&#039;t be an issue -- amirite, ladies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, right, I should bust out my Dan Savage quotes&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s nothing wrong with objectification as long as we&#8217;re objectifying everybody.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;s a neat question: Is that statement true? It is pointedly <strong>not</strong> true in a literal reading of Christian morality (Mark 5:<a href="http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PVE.HTM#-2X9" rel="nofollow">27-29</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>
You have heard that it was said, &#8216;You shall not commit adultery.&#8217;<br />
But I say to you, everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.<br />
If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the second verse: Thoughtcrime is morally reprehensible. And look at the punishment!</p>
<p>Still: If all the men were blind, then objectification of women wouldn&#8217;t be an issue &#8212; amirite, ladies?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70758</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The kind of research the article talks about weirds me out. It&#039;s hard to tease out what&#039;s social, what&#039;s mental, what&#039;s physical, what&#039;s just &quot;how women work&quot;, what&#039;s just error due to uncomfortable equipment, etc. Maybe it gets into that but for now it&#039;s &lt;abbr title=&quot;Too Long, Don&#039;t Read&quot;&gt;TLDR&lt;/abbr&gt; (I&#039;m in double-jihad web browsing overtime this weekend).

But in advertising there&#039;s a rule of thumb: Men look at an ad and say, &quot;I want her&quot;; Women look at an ad and say, &quot;I want to be her.&quot;

That&#039;s why businesstards use women to advertise EVERYTHING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kind of research the article talks about weirds me out. It&#8217;s hard to tease out what&#8217;s social, what&#8217;s mental, what&#8217;s physical, what&#8217;s just &#8220;how women work&#8221;, what&#8217;s just error due to uncomfortable equipment, etc. Maybe it gets into that but for now it&#8217;s <abbr title="Too Long, Don't Read">TLDR</abbr> (I&#8217;m in double-jihad web browsing overtime this weekend).</p>
<p>But in advertising there&#8217;s a rule of thumb: Men look at an ad and say, &#8220;I want her&#8221;; Women look at an ad and say, &#8220;I want to be her.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why businesstards use women to advertise EVERYTHING.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70755</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@karen: Just out of curiosity, did you RTFA or was it TLDR? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@karen: Just out of curiosity, did you RTFA or was it TLDR? <img src='http://mentalpolyphonics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/women-want-to-be-objectified/comment-page-1#comment-70754</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get turned on when I know someone is into me. You decide if that is mental or physical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get turned on when I know someone is into me. You decide if that is mental or physical.</p>
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