» Laugh about it, shout about it, when you’ve got to choose.
I attended the first hour of an all-candidates forum and debate for my riding of Kitchener–Waterloo, one of four ridings in the Region of Waterloo. It was held at RIM Park, a city park with many sports fields, walking trails, and a large building with several gymnasiums and meeting rooms. The room for the forum was woefully undersized, maybe seating 200 of the 400 people there, so many people were standing crammed at the back, including me and companions – I think they should have held it in one of the gymnasiums.
The CAP candidate, a university student, was well-spoken and complimentary to most of the other candidates, but his main plan (for the government to loan itself money at a sub-market interest rate instead of borrowing from mostly foreign companies on the open market, thereby allowing personal income taxes to be eliminated) struck me as a modern version of the old Social Credit print-worthless-money scheme. I got the impression he was there to raise some ideas and wasn’t fooling himself that he had any hope of winning.
The Communist candidate had trouble expressing himself well in English, or at least my companions and I had trouble understanding him, but he got across his main ideas that free trade is bad and “we need jobs, we need foodâ€.
Telegdi (the Liberal incumbent), Braid (the Conservative) and MacLellan (the Green), expressed their own positions and party positions well. Telegdi misspoke in his closing statements, saying that something he and the Green had in common was the goal of “getting Stephen Harper elected prime ministerâ€. Obviously he either meant to say Stephane Dion or else stopping Harper from being prime minister. It was funny, but caused a disproportionately intense reaction among the crowd. The other candidates ignored it, except for Braid, who said, at the start of his closing statements, that he was glad to see he picked up a new vote.
I wasn’t impressed with the NDP candidate, Jacobsen. During his opening statement, the Conservative candidate mentioned his wife and daughters and also Harper. I was worried that he would continue mentioning his family as a selling point throughout the debate and also make the case that we should vote for him because Harper is so great. Instead, he didn’t mention his family again and didn’t excessively mention Harper, but Jacobsen referred to herself as a “pastor and a counsellor [and a mother]†in every answer, and played up how great Jack Layton is. After a few times, my companions and I would repeat the mantra “pastor and counsellor†under our breath when she said it and ask each other “What is her job? Did she say? Is she a mother?†Her tone seemed overly calm and too soothing – very pastory. One of my companions called it patronizing, as if we were her Sunday schoolers.
Many of these observations are superficial, but they are my impressions of the forum.
This is not a Liberal riding, it’s Andrew Talegdi’s riding. It is one of the few ridings in Ontario where people vote for the person not the party. Mr. Talegdi and Ms Witmer [the PC MPP] are both good people, one’s a Conservative, the other a Liberal.

















I missed the first half of the first hour (but stayed for the second hour). My impression:
I didn’t like the NDP candidate. I didn’t catch the “pastor and counsellor” angle as much, but I think she mentioned that “Jack has a plan to …” for every question. It got tiring after a while.
I agree with you about the CAP and communist guys. CAP guy had some radical ideas, but obviously wasn’t overly concerned about winning and didn’t answer very well on a few basic MP-like questions.
Telegdi seemed to do a bit better in the second half (the non-televised version). Braid missed a couple easy questions that he could have scored points on. Lots of back and forth between Telegdi and Braid.
Overall, the Cons did a good job getting people out to the debate, and the results will be closer next time than in 2006, but Telegdi should still take it. He increased his margin of victory when Liberals were falling left and right last time. As long as he’s around, barring a real star Conservative, he looks like he should still take it.
Matt Arnold
29 Sep 08 at 7:55 am
I am pretty sure Mr. Telegdi did not misspeak. It appears that Liberals have been doing everything they can to elect Mr. Harper.
their platform…their leadership…etcetera
Paul
5 Oct 08 at 12:11 pm
I basically agree with you assessment. I was disappointed with the NDP Candididate was well. I particularly remember one moment in the debate when she exhibited a real lack of understanding with respect to the NDP’s environmental plan, and the shortcomings of the other plans.
On top of that, I was impressed with the Green candidate. She was articulate, thoughtful, and passionate.
In the end, however, my sense is that Telegdi will win the election. Considering the the margin that he won by in 2006 in the wake of the scandal, I can’t see a big reason why the Conservatives will win unless there’s some sort of sea change in the last week.
Levi O'Sullican
7 Oct 08 at 10:30 pm