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	<title>Comments on: Hand Discussion: Limping with 72? Really?</title>
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		<title>By: Vigorous Vigorish &#124; MentalPolyphonics</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/hand-discussion-limping-with-72-really/comment-page-1#comment-71654</link>
		<dc:creator>Vigorous Vigorish &#124; MentalPolyphonics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] In the last few days I&#8217;ve been thinking that statistical analysis of poker might be fairly unsound, as well as boring. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the last few days I&#8217;ve been thinking that statistical analysis of poker might be fairly unsound, as well as boring. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://mentalpolyphonics.com/posts/hand-discussion-limping-with-72-really/comment-page-1#comment-71648</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys are essentially asking what I meant about the minraise fitting the &quot;table rhythm&quot;.

When you&#039;re the chip lead (or just crazy) you can start to psychologically dominate your opponents. This is what I was, essentially, relying on: Limpy being too afraid of me to enter the pot, especially with such a crappy holding. My late-stage game is essentially a campaign of shock and awe. Like the US military I attempt to harness the terrifying power of God and crush the psyches of my opponents.

After I saw the showdown I turned on chat (I play with it off for this very reason) and started mercilessly (and incorrectly) mocking every single play both Limpy and Villain made for the rest of the game.

In the end Villain tried to trap me with AA and ended up accidentally giving enough free cards for me to make the nut flush on him. He was trying to surprise me with good cards by playing them in a slightly negative-EV way, hoping for me to make a larger negative-EV play on a future street. It backfired horribly, as his negative-EV dings added up to all of his chips and a final dig from me:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Our Hero says, &quot;Well played.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, in a sense, this hand set the table on fire and contributed to my win in a way that&#039;s easier to model psychologically than statistically.

Truelz -- awesome, but more applicable to three-handed after the bubble&#039;s been popped when stacks are roughly even, I suspect. I&#039;ll noodle it some.

Aside: Shorty&#039;s EV if it&#039;s 72o is still 429, however it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; possible to mess things up. Limpy&#039;s worst holding in this case is going to be something like 84o, and then Shorty&#039;s EV shoots to 584.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are essentially asking what I meant about the minraise fitting the &#8220;table rhythm&#8221;.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re the chip lead (or just crazy) you can start to psychologically dominate your opponents. This is what I was, essentially, relying on: Limpy being too afraid of me to enter the pot, especially with such a crappy holding. My late-stage game is essentially a campaign of shock and awe. Like the US military I attempt to harness the terrifying power of God and crush the psyches of my opponents.</p>
<p>After I saw the showdown I turned on chat (I play with it off for this very reason) and started mercilessly (and incorrectly) mocking every single play both Limpy and Villain made for the rest of the game.</p>
<p>In the end Villain tried to trap me with AA and ended up accidentally giving enough free cards for me to make the nut flush on him. He was trying to surprise me with good cards by playing them in a slightly negative-EV way, hoping for me to make a larger negative-EV play on a future street. It backfired horribly, as his negative-EV dings added up to all of his chips and a final dig from me:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our Hero says, &#8220;Well played.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So, in a sense, this hand set the table on fire and contributed to my win in a way that&#8217;s easier to model psychologically than statistically.</p>
<p>Truelz &#8212; awesome, but more applicable to three-handed after the bubble&#8217;s been popped when stacks are roughly even, I suspect. I&#8217;ll noodle it some.</p>
<p>Aside: Shorty&#8217;s EV if it&#8217;s 72o is still 429, however it <em>is</em> possible to mess things up. Limpy&#8217;s worst holding in this case is going to be something like 84o, and then Shorty&#8217;s EV shoots to 584.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, please rewrite this post in terms of hand-waving evolutionary psychology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, please rewrite this post in terms of hand-waving evolutionary psychology.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Statistical analysis of poker is &lt;em&gt;so boring&lt;/em&gt;. If it were just a game of statistics, then humans shouldn&#039;t be playing it: only computers should be. Please rewrite this post in terms of hand-waving game theory. Specifically, analyze this situation as a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truel&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;truel&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statistical analysis of poker is <em>so boring</em>. If it were just a game of statistics, then humans shouldn&#8217;t be playing it: only computers should be. Please rewrite this post in terms of hand-waving game theory. Specifically, analyze this situation as a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truel" rel="nofollow">truel</a>.</p>
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